tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30695998.post115646659587669986..comments2023-09-09T10:19:50.170-04:00Comments on Frum With Questions: Shemona Esrei Part 2FrumWithQuestionshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16669717584308348172noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30695998.post-1158024448786448832006-09-11T21:27:00.000-04:002006-09-11T21:27:00.000-04:00FrumGirl- The drivers might be crazier in East Ne...FrumGirl- The drivers might be crazier in East New York but at least they know how to drive. If you go down a block in East New York you will not find many cars with dents in them.FrumWithQuestionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16669717584308348172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30695998.post-1157595578037997462006-09-06T22:19:00.000-04:002006-09-06T22:19:00.000-04:00I hate to break it to you... have you ever driven ...I hate to break it to you... have you ever driven in East New York? Its even crazier there....FrumGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06938604279533529932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30695998.post-1157060756415589022006-08-31T17:45:00.000-04:002006-08-31T17:45:00.000-04:00Because people were impoverished, real estate was ...Because people were impoverished, real estate was cheaper. Because of infant mortality there weren't as many youth around. So yes, I believe there was more personal space in shuls in Europe in the old days.goyisherebbehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09380171052449799815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30695998.post-1156860378087181802006-08-29T10:06:00.000-04:002006-08-29T10:06:00.000-04:00No, but have you seen the pictures of some of the ...No, but have you seen the pictures of some of the shuls in Eastern Europe? They were huge. The main shuls in Italy that I visited were also huge. Have you ever davened in 770 , Bobov, or Shomrei Shabbos in New York? You don't have an inch to move so how do you stay away from somebody? And if the other people davening know they are close to someone they should daven silently.FrumWithQuestionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16669717584308348172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30695998.post-1156842343695554452006-08-29T05:05:00.000-04:002006-08-29T05:05:00.000-04:00I strongly doubt that the Shuls and shtiblach of t...I strongly doubt that the Shuls and shtiblach of the poor Jews of Eastern Europe were as spacious as the synagogues of today's America. Have you ever seen what they call the "shtibel" in Englewood, NJ?yitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08523302947845887661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30695998.post-1156784861815745882006-08-28T13:07:00.000-04:002006-08-28T13:07:00.000-04:00Yitz- I understand the point you are trying to mak...Yitz- I understand the point you are trying to make but I disagree with you. The way the shuls were set up in Russia and Europe were much different and much bigger where you would probably have a much bigger place to daven making it possible to be daled amos away from another person. In most shuls today because of the pews or chairs and size, you are on top one another and most of the time you are within three amos of a person. I am going to have a post about a similar topic to this coming up. There are also echos and some people whisper not realizing that when you wisper the sound carries a lot further than if they were reciting the Shemona Esrei to themselves. Unfortunately this situation happened to me again this morning. At least i was able to identify another person who davens like this so I can sit far from him next time i see him in shul. I was also not shocked to notice that this guys car had dents all over it and also talks in shul.FrumWithQuestionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16669717584308348172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30695998.post-1156757096248082732006-08-28T05:24:00.000-04:002006-08-28T05:24:00.000-04:00I've seen in brought in the name of the "Shulchan ...I've seen in brought in the name of the "<I>Shulchan Aruch HaRav</I>", which is the <I>Shulchan Aruch</I> authored by the first Lubavitcher Rebbe, the <I>Baal HaTanya</I> [and often brought by the <I>Mishna Brura</I>], that the <I>issur</I> that one should not <I>daven</I> so loud as to be heard applies only outside of <I>Daled Amos</I>, approximately 6 feet or 2 meters. Within that radius, one may be heard, but it shouldn't disturb the person next to him. In general, if possible, one should stand far enough away from the next person to be OUTSIDE of his <I>Daled Amos</I>.yitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08523302947845887661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30695998.post-1156473214138945202006-08-24T22:33:00.000-04:002006-08-24T22:33:00.000-04:00" I always find that the people who do this usuall..." I always find that the people who do this usually rush through their Shemona Esrei so they can be the first to scream Yaaleh Viyavo like they are the entire minyans savior for saying it."<BR/><BR/>LOL !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com